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Only 19 Senators Are A “Firm No” Against Impeachment – And There Are Whispers Some Republicans May Turn On Trump

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It has been widely assumed that the Democrats could never possibly get the votes that they need to remove Donald Trump from office in the U.S. Senate, and so therefore the outcome of this entire saga is already a foregone conclusion. But what if that is not true? In this article, you will see that only 19 members of the Senate are a “firm no” when it comes to impeachment, and 35 members have already publicly committed to convicting Trump. In the end, it is going to take 67 votes to remove Trump from office, and Democrats only control 47 seats. It was always going to be a monumental task to try to find 20 Republican members of the Senate willing to betray Trump, and it still doesn’t seem likely that we will get anywhere near that number. But there are whispers that at least some Republicans are currently very much up in the air regarding how they will vote.

On Friday, U.S. Senator Chris Murphy appeared on the “Morning Joe” program, and what he had to say is really shaking a lot of people up

Murphy, a Democrat from Connecticut, told MSNBC’s Morning Joe program on Friday that he has spoken to GOP senators who are thinking of voting against Trump.

“It’s a small list on one hand,” Murphy said. “I don’t buy this secret ballot thing. If there was a secret ballot, there’d still be only a handful of them that would vote to impeach this guy.”

Up until now, most of us had assumed that Republicans in the Senate would unanimously stand behind Trump.

But according to Murphy, cracks are starting to form.

It is certainly possible that Murphy could be lying, but what purpose would he have for lying about these private conversations?

Of course we definitely are not talking about a long list of potential turncoats. In fact, he openly admitted that only a handful of Republicans are thinking this way

When pressed, Murphy said that as it stands he thinks there are a maximum of five Republican senators willing to turn on the president: “I think that’s probably right.”

This is not a major crisis for the Trump White House yet, but it definitely has got to be alarming for any cracks to be forming at all at this stage.

So who specifically are we talking about here?

Well, it has been suggested that Susan Collins, Mitt Romney and Lisa Murkowski are all potential candidates to turn on Trump. In particular, Collins and Murkowski are essentially Democrats for all practical purposes, and so it wouldn’t be too much of a surprise if either one of them turned on Trump. In fact, they both have voted against Trump in a number of high profile votes in recent years.

For Romney, this could be an opportunity for sweet revenge. Trump and Romney have exchanged insults for years, and Romney has already publicly referred to Trump’s dealings with Ukrainian officials as “troubling in the extreme”

He has called Trump’s prodding of Ukrainian officials to investigate Biden “troubling in the extreme.” When the president also called on China to investigate Biden, Romney blasted the move as “wrong and appalling.”

Romney, 72, is seen as having the most freedom to vote to convict, as he made his concerns about the president’s character known during the 2016 primary, when he excoriated Trump as “a phony” and “a fraud” in a last ditch effort to deprive him of the nomination.

Needless to say, President Trump is deeply concerned about what could potentially happen in the weeks ahead, and he has been working very hard to court the support of his fellow Republicans in Congress

Since the fall began, Trump has hosted more than 40 Republican senators, primarily for weekly lunches. The White House has also hosted Republican House members for weekends at Camp David, and Trump has brought lawmakers to several sporting events, including to the World Series in Washington and the Ultimate Fighting Championship in New York City.

But despite all of that effort, the outcome of the upcoming Senate trial is still surprisingly up in the air. Just check out the following numbers from Politico

A tracker by Politico, which is evaluating the current position of each of the 100 senators, estimates that there are only 35 firm votes to remove Trump from office. A further 10 are down as probably, five maybe, 31 probably not, and 19 a firm no.

So why aren’t more Republicans in the Senate a “firm no”?

In fact, why aren’t virtually all of the Republicans in the Senate a “firm no”?

Something stinks about all of this. In Washington, far more goes on behind the scenes that most of us would dare to imagine. And a tremendous amount of pressure can be brought to bear on our representatives when very powerful people want them to vote a certain way.

I still think that it is extremely unlikely that pro-impeachment forces will get the 67 votes that they need in the Senate to remove Trump from office. And if it doesn’t look like there will be 67 votes, some Republicans that would be inclined to betray Trump may chicken out and decide that it isn’t worth the risk if the effort is not going to be successful.

But we definitely live in unprecedented times, and anything could still happen in the weeks ahead.

Top Democrats have indicated that they would like to have the full House vote on impeachment some time around Christmas, and so it looks like we could actually see the Senate trial happen in January

The Senate’s legislative calendar, released Wednesday, includes an ominous blank spot for the month of January, a reminder that the proceedings surrounding impeachment are fluid. Although the details for an impeachment trial remain unclear, Senate Republicans said they can guarantee at least one thing: Trump’s defense will be heard.

Needless to say, the mainstream media is going to be relentlessly covering these proceedings, and the whole world will be watching.

But the most fascinating action will actually be going on behind the scenes.

Pro-impeachment forces will be working night and day to try to get the 67 votes that they need, and if the potential vote count starts to creep close to that number, that is when things are going to start getting really interesting.

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18 COMMENTS

  1. “Well, it has been suggested that Susan Collins, Mitt Romney and Lisa Murkowski are all potential candidates to turn on Trump. In particular, Collins and Murkowski are essentially Democrats for all practical purposes, and so it wouldn’t be too much of a surprise if either one of them turned on Trump. In fact, they both have voted against Trump in a number of high profile votes in recent years.”

    Yep see these Rino’s going after President Trump. This is why we are going thru all this because not only the Dems, but the Rinos, lead by McCain didn’t want him either. McCain also gave the FBI the Steele dossier. These Rinos allowed what happen in Ukraine under Obama. They allowed Obama to sweep under the rug the cyberattacks on the Joint Chief of Staff and State Department. They allowed Obama to send a pallet of money to Iran so they couldn’t afford an “outsider” in the White House.

    Shame, but the next step of this Impeachment circle jerk is the Senate. So we shall see. So it comes down to embedded political hacks or We the People’s choice of President. If these rinos do gleefully, and personally cast a vote for impeachment when there is NO facts, We the People know they are no better than the Democrats.

    GOD BLESS PRESIDENT TRUMP! GOD BLESS THE USA!

  2. IF, and I do say “if” the Republicans in the Senate do vote to impeach Trump all Hell will break lose in our Country. It will be the straw that breaks the camel’s back, and for good reason. In short, it will be the final nail in America’s coffin… And, we have the same recipe that caused the downfall of the Roman Empire: Greed and Corruption by our politicians!!

  3. If any “Republicans” go rogue at a time like this they wouldn’t get reelected in their next election cycle.. A revolt will happen if somehow the President is remove from office.. The next civil war would be the result and an 20 million person march would take out the swamp person by person.. Barr and Durham are the best defense of the above not becoming necessary.. If the Democrats prevail with this Coup… the gloves come off and It will be an entire new world in DC. Don’t tread on me is the battle cry and I won’t be pretty.. This is as ugly as you want it to be.. Stand up for Justice.. real Justice not the Comey Schiff kind……

  4. The Demorats are impeaching our President for abuse of power? Are these Demorats lost their mind or maybe they are suffering from dementia. They are the ones abusing their majority power on the house. For the past month we have been seeing their actions during their subpoenas, and their lies.
    WE MAYBE DEPLORABLES, BUT WE ARE
    NOT STUPID AS THEIR ARE.

  5. The last time I voted, was in 1998… Against Clinton. Back in the impeachment, there was proof , you could say the proof was in the pudding. But he was given a slap on the wrist and remain president.
    My father told me nothing would happen to Clinton, because he was a Democrat. It seems he was right. So, when Donald Trump became the Republican nominee for president I stepped back up to the plate and voted for him and yes he became president I had some belief in the system again. But now, if he gets impeached, I doubt I will vote ever again. I have been so patient waiting for the Democrats to stop pouting because they lost in 2016 and start working with the president but… No.
    It seems that the Democrats have been planning this ever since he became the nominee, and I’ve tried to undermine every single thing he has done and tried to do for the American people.
    The Democrats attempt add impeachment is based on everything but facts, hearsay and innuendo that’s the only thing they have? And yet they seem bound and determined to push forward and reverse the election results. It is a sad time in our history. Whichever way the results go, I hope people look back on this time and see just how delusional and divided we are as a nation.
    I stand with President Donald Trump and if he makes it through this Witch Hunt oh, he will have my vote in 2020.🇺🇸

    • Morning Joe is an idiot. Just what MSNBC needs. A mouth with no brains to spit out their hatred. And still wonder how his intern died in his office. Oh that’s right, can’t talk about that, lol.

      GOD BLESS PRESIDENT TRUMP! GOD BLESS THE USA!

  6. Any Republican that votes to impeach President Trump won’t live long enough to get back to their home in the Soviet Union. So go for it Robney, Murcowshit, Cullones, or Putin!

  7. https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/12/10/joe-biden-pledges-to-not-comply-with-senate-subpoena-in-impeachment-trial/

    “Everybody knows the issue here is not what I did, because no one has a proved one scintilla of evidence that I did anything other than do my job for America as well as anybody could have done it,” the former vice president told NPR over the weekend.

    “I did my job incredibly well,” he added.”

    Hey Slow Joe, no one looked into it because Obama thought Hiliary would get in and it would be swept under the rug.

    I agree, you did your job in enriching you and your son very well. Now you need to explain to WE the PEOPLE, especially about that quid pro quo with getting a prosecutor fired while dangling $1 Billion of OUR tax dollars over Ukraine’s head until they did to protect your son’s company.

    Don’t want to come to the Senate. Maybe a subpoena will do the trick. Time will tell. But loving how upset you get, even calling a older man Fat, because you know deep down, you are in big trouble. Hey should have helped your son get off drugs instead of giving him a no-show job.

    GOD BLESS PRESIDENT TRUMP! GOD BLESS THE USA!

  8. https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/12/10/31-trump-district-democrats-will-decide-impeachments-fate-in-house/

    Here’s the list of the 31 Dems where President Trump won. Nothing to show they actually did anything except follow Pelosi’s impeachment scam.

    Also Reps. Josh Gottheimer (D-N.J.), censure for what? Van Drew was smart from the beginning though he throws around censure too. Got a look Dem right? There is no case. Give you a comparison. Look at how Menendez got out of trouble using a retired judge, who picked and chose to get Menendez off using some illegal aliens in the jury as well. Now look at Nadler/Schiff and their pick and choose what they want to make the case, using Trump haters as witnesses.

    Menendez was guilty but got off because of a retired Clinton Judge. BTW, when are we going to see all that Medicaid money back to help NJ residents, and NOT illegal aliens? On that’s right, the judge let Menendez off scott free and We loose. Just dip into the “never ending funds of taxpayers ” right?

    President Trump did nothing wrong, proven by the Republicans who had to endure the circle jerk of Schiffy and Nadler. So what are you going to censure? And if asked, what do you think of what Obama did spying, along with Biden helping his drug addled son get a no-show job? No-show jobs are big here. Remember Bryant who went to jail for his no-show jobs?

    GOD BLESS PRESIDENT TRUMP! GOD BLESS THE USA!

  9. Absolutely. Agree with you The republicans who turns on the president and the ones dragging their feet are duly noted .To save the embarrassment of them getting squash in the election, they can go ahead and annouce their retirement. They won’t get a second chance. If they claim to be republicans then they should damn well support our president. If not go join the Democratic socialist party.

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