
After its 2000 decision in Bush v. Gore, Justice David Souter reportedly “wept” when the role of the Supreme Court was raised in determining the outcome of the presidential election.
The court continues to grapple with the legacy – and controversy – of that decision. With the still developing Senate trial in President Trump’s impeachment, the court could soon be pulled into the flip side of Bush v. Gore, not who could be declared but who should be removed as president.
Despite what Trump counsel Rudolph W. Giuliani has declared in calling for the court to nullify the impeachment, the Constitution does not state any function of the court in impeachments other than the limited role of the chief justice as the presiding judge. That suits most justices just fine. Most justices would prefer to drink molten lead than get pulled into another presidential legitimacy case.
Yet, the Trump impeachment trial may force that cup to the lips of the justices. With a trial starting in the Senate on Thursday, the looming question over the Senate will be whether to allow witnesses. While I strongly disagreed with the House in rushing this impeachment forward rather than waiting a couple of months to complete its record, I still support a trial with witnesses in the Senate. If witnesses are called, however, the court could be forced to finally face a question more than 50 years in the making.
In 1974, the Supreme Court ruled in United States v. Nixon and ordered the release of the Watergate tapes to special prosecutor Leon Jaworski – and ultimately to Congress. Nixon resigned roughly two weeks later. That case has spawned a variety of interpretations of its rejection of executive privilege, including one interpretation I call the “Nixon fallacy.” The fallacy goes something like this:
Impeachment so exceeds in importance executive-privilege claims that the Supreme Court has already declared that criminal or impeachment investigations take precedence over privilege so any withholding of testimony or documents is per se obstruction.
In reality, the Supreme Court never said anything like that.
Yes, the court rejected what it described as the claim of an “absolute, unqualified Presidential privilege of immunity” to withhold relevant evidence in a criminal investigation. But it did not say that a president could not invoke privilege over the testimony in an impeachment proceeding or that such privilege assertions could not ever prevail. Indeed, it did not even categorically reject such claims in a criminal investigation but simply said that “without more” of a justification from Nixon, the tapes would have to be turned over to the Watergate special prosecutor.
A national security adviser speaking to a president about the delivery of military aid to a foreign country is the very definition of a core protected area of executive privilege. That does not mean the White House would win in a fight over John Bolton’s testimony. However, it does mean Trump has a viable and recognized basis for withholding information in this area – creating an issue capable of judicial review and resolution.
So, here is one scenario. The Senate crosses the Rubicon and both sides call witnesses from Bolton to Hunter Biden to give depositions. While Biden would not be able to refuse to testify absent a Fifth Amendment plea (which could be overcome by a grant of immunity), the White House would try to halt Bolton’s participation under a claim of privilege. The White House would presumably push the case into the federal district court, which would have to review each area of questioning to determine if executive privileges or congressional prerogatives should prevail. Appeals would follow. And all that assumes the Senate is willing to wait for those courts to rule.
The problem is time. It took only three months to litigate the Nixon tapes controversy from the district court to a final decision of the Supreme Court. By refusing to delay the impeachment vote, the House effectively gave up control of its own case. The Senate may have little time or patience to allow the House to correct that blunder.
In my view, Bolton should testify. Indeed, he should have been subpoenaed in the House. There are valid privilege claims to be raised, but he can clearly answer questions narrowly tailored to the issue of a quid pro quo.
The only body less eager to grapple with those claims than the Senate is the Supreme Court. The aversion is only enhanced by the possibility of recusal of Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. in any appeal, leaving the court with a risk of a tie vote on a critical impeachment question. Over a decade after she ruled in Bush v. Gore, Sandra Day O’Connor was still expressing regrets and wondered aloud, “Maybe the court should have said, ‘We’re not going to take it, goodbye.’”
But that may be difficult when the Senate is waiting roughly 1,500 feet away for an answer on what Bolton might say. Three branches of government would literally be locked in a constitutional hold with the curious figure of Bolton sitting in the center. Before he speaks, the court may have no alternative but to be heard.
via zerohedge
A Democratic/Globalists attempt to shred our Constitution. Basically making the Executive Branch void so that Senate, or should I say Parliament can preside over We serfs.
Stop playing games, dismiss this farce, because all this is the Democratic/rino/globalists way of getting around the Constitution, after they spit on it.
GOD BLESS PRESIDENT TRUMP! GOD HELP THE USA!
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/01/20/watch-live-pro-2a-americans-come-to-virginia-to-rally-for-gun-rights/
My Thoughts with every one of the Responsible Gun owners who are rallying today to protect their 2nd Amendment rights from a KKK, Black face Member.
BTW, little history lesson. It was the Democrats who created the KKK to go after African Americans and those Republicans that wanted to help.
Don’t learn from history, you repeat it, over and over again. Fun isn’t it? 2nd Amendment, an IMPORTANT amendment that GUARANTEES Freedom for ALL.
GOD BLESS PRESIDENT TRUMP! GOD HELP THE USA!
https://www.breitbart.com/2nd-amendment/2020/01/20/watch-2a-activist-media-smearing-virginia-protesters-as-nothing-but-white-rednecks/
“What I also don’t support is the fact that every news piece you’ve seen on this, this weekend, they’ve always brought up the issue of race, as though it’s nothing but white rednecks and hillbillies out here who care for the Second Amendment,” he continued. “When Actually, black Americans, Asian Americans, Hispanic Americans, Americans in general, care about the Second Amendment.”
Thank you sir! We responsible gun owners know this, but the “snowflakes” the fake news needs to stir up needs their “living in a bubble” answer.
This is needed to help the Democrats and their KKK members, and their Antifa members, and their Muslim Brotherhood members, and their MS-13 members to go down, do something and blame it on Respectable, Responsible Gun-owners.
GOD BLESS PRESIDENT TRUMP! GOD HELP THE USA!
Karen take your gun to bed tonight and ride it like it’s your dildo.
Why is that what you do? Hope you have a good time with it, lol
GOD BLESS PRESIDENT TRUMP! GOD HELP THE USA!
Take your liberal bull ship elsewhere as no one is interested in your lies
Mary, Ruth and Larraine’s posts should be removed. Why is there no place to report that in these comments?
Tired of wading through spam work ads. Can’t they be reported or blocked? Probably working for the demonazis.
Karen the KKK is still in the south and RETARDicans control the south learn your history before you spout lies.
lol, TDS is really bad for you, isn’t it. lol
Already know history and it’s not from the indoctrinated public system system either, THANK GOD!
GOD BLESS PRESIDENT TRUMP! GOD HELP THE USA!
I live in the South and haven’t seen any KKK since my State went REPUBLICAN. Sure, I use to see the KKK when the DEMOCRATS ruled my area. Thank God, the Southern people woke up to who and what the DEMOCRATS really are. We are no longer living on the DEMOCRATS plantation. Seems that the Democrat lovers are still living on that Democrat plantation, like you. EVIDENTLY not smart enough to think for yourself. lol C9
https://www.breitbart.com/border/2020/01/20/videos-hundreds-of-caravan-migrants-rush-mexicos-border/
We have more pressing problems than this stupid Democratic impeachment farce. These caravans come even close to our border, send them back!
Have too many illegal aliens that are taking up needed help from those mentally ill and drug addicted that are destroying cities.
Time to make a change. Time to send DACA back. Time to send REFUGEES back (especially Omar in Congress who laughs at dead military). Time to round up all the MS-13, Muslim Brotherhood, Antifa and the rest terrorizing our Country and throw them over the Wall.
Countries have borders. Borders have walls. And this Country speaks English. Want to come here, there is a way. And it’s also “pay your own way”, not on the backs of American Taxpayers.
BTW, the language here is English. Love those other languages, but really the cost of printing all our documents in so many different languages is very expensive. Love USA, help out, learn English before you come.
GOD BLESS PRESIDENT TRUMP! GOD HELP THE USA!