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Vindman Admits To Violating Chain Of Command, Says Trump Within Rights To Request Foreign Investigation

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Recap:

After several hours of public testimony from NSC official Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman and Russia adviser Jennifer Williams, we now know – or have confirmation of the following:

  • Despite being a Ukraine expert, Vindman says he had no idea that Ukrainian natural gas company, Burisma, routed over $3 million to accounts tied to Hunter Biden.

  • Vindman went outside the chain of command to report his concerns over a July 25 phone call between President Trump and Ukrainian President Volodomyr Zelensky.

  • It’s perfectly normal for a president to ask a foreign leader to open an investigation.

  • Ukraine asked Vindman to be their Defense Minister three times!

  • Rep. Jim Jordan laid out why Americans are exhausted with the “get Trump!” cult:

As an aside – Rep. Eric Swalwell was cookin’ with gas in this clip which may or may not be fake news:

House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff (D-CA) couldn’t help but invent more Trump quotes:

According to The Federalist‘s Sean Davis, Vindman’s testimony was “a disaster for impeachment efforts.” 

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Update 4: As the questioning continues, Vindman has once again been forced to admit that when he initially reported his misgivings about President Trump’s behavior in the July 25 call, he didn’t adhere to the ‘chain of command’ when he reported the call to counsel instead of directly to his superiors.

Meanwhile lawmakers have bashed Vindman for insisting that a Republican lawmaker refer to him by his full rank ‘Lt. Col. Vindman’ despite the fact that the Congressman isn’t in the military.

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Update 3: Adam Schiff is now doing his best to use the constitutional protections of the whistleblower to stop Vindman from an embarrassingly public unmasking.

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Update 2: More lunacy…and we’re not even close to being finished with the first round of Tuesday testimony.

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Update: It’s on, with Vindman and Williams delivering their testimony Tuesday morning. One useful nugget has already emerged from the questioning of Vindman, who acknowledged that he hasn’t heard any Ukrainians complaining about allegedly being bullied by the US.

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The impeachment circus is back on Tuesday as the public phase of the Dems’ investigation enters its second week with the public testimony of Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman, the top Ukraine specialist on the National Security Council who has objected to President Trump’s alleged decision to press Ukrainian Prime Minister Volodymyr Zelensky to investigate the Bidens.

Vindman isn’t the only one who will testify Tuesday: Kurt Volker, a former special envoy to Kyiv who reportedly told lawmakers in private that the White House decision to withhold military aid was “not significant” and Ukraine’s leaders “never communicated a belief that there was a quid pro quo”, will also appear before the Intelligence Committee.

Two other senior officials, Jennifer Williams, a national security veteran detailed to Vice President Mike Pence, and outgoing NSC staffer Tim Morrison, will also testify.

Dems have been working to impeach President Trump since a “whistleblower” believed to be a CIA analyst complained that Trump had risked undermining US foreign policy to pursue personal political ends. Keep in mind: A rough transcript of a call between Trump and his Ukrainian counterpart that took place on July 25 was released weeks ago, allowing members of the public to make their own decisions about what they think they heard.

Watch the hearing live below:

All four of these witnesses have already testified before lawmakers in private sessions.  Vindman, who has suspiciously advised the government of Ukraine in addition to working full time for the US, was on the July 25 call at the center of the impeachment probe. Volker wasn’t on the call, but he was a part of the shadow campaign led by Rudy Giuliani and the President to press the Ukrainians to investigate Hunter Biden over his links to a gas company suspected of paying bribes and other corrupt activities.

Morrison, meanwhile, has testified that EU ambassador Gordon Sondland in September told a top Ukrainian official that the release of US military aid to the war-torn country would hinge on whether Kyiv opened an investigation into the Bidens.

The witnesses will testify 2 at a time during Tuesday’s most packed hearing to date. Vindman and Williams will kick things off at 9 am, followed by Volker and Morrison around mid-afternoon.

via zerohedge

39 COMMENTS

  1. So yesterday saw one of the faces of the “deep state” operative in Vindman. Who, oops “leaked” it to the “whistleblower” in an “intelligence agency” (wink, wink CIA) as Schiffy Schiff stopped the questioning and KNEW who Vindman was talking about. For Vindman to state with a smile that he was asked three times to head the Defense of Ukraine, it really makes wonder, uniform or not as we know Obama gutted the military of REAL military men, where his true allegiance lies. Knowing now that Vindman skipped chain of command, it’s NOT with the USA. Also what was funny, later on in this Schiff show was the Dems bringing up McCain and how Volker said he worked closely with him and was fond of him. Gee, can’t forget the connection McCain had with the Russian fake dossier that Hilary took up for election fodder.

    This is a disgrace to our Country. This is showing the full extent Dems, Globalists, Rhinos, and appointed ambassadors or whatever Vindman is (definitely not Military I would expect from this GREAT Nation) overruling OUR President for their OWN personal plans using OUR tax dollars.

    Hey Schiffy Schiff, President Trump didn’t get caught, Biden/Obama and all these appointed ambassadors or Obama military dolts are the ones that got caught. And so did you Schiff.

    Shows NO focus on this Great Nation, just focuses on their New World Order/EU plans. That is why this coup has been going on for 3 years, because President Trump is “America First” and these traitors are for “them” first.

    GOD BLESS PRESIDENT TRUMP! GOD BLESS THE USA!

      • You sound angry that he didn’t kiss dear leader’s orange ass. Typical RepubliCANT. Scream your support for the military and the denigrate someone who has served with distinction because he doesn’t believe the same BS you do.

        • Gee, I really didn’t notice how blind this TDS syndrome makes you. But hey lawrie shows it. This person, who service with distinction, was chastised for bad mouthing with Russian soldiers OUR Country. You know the one he is supposed to uphold. Plus service with distinction, wouldn’t have completely ignored the chain of command. Plus how proud this man was when he was offered a job in defense with a foreign country.

          Yep don’t blame flyingcoyote or any REAL Military man or woman who service is to THIS Country for being mad at this traitor who allowed his personal ambition to soil his military service.

          GOD BLESS PRESIDENT TRUMP! GOD BLESS THE USA!

        • Lawrie, are you aware that Michael Flynn served his country with distinction also, and that the FBI stated that they did not believe he lied to them? Flynn was lynched in order to make Trump look bad. He only pleaded guilty because they threatened his son. Democrats really care about real American military heroes who served their country with distinction. You bet. You traitors have hated the US military ever since Vietnam.

        • vineman is a TRAITOR clear thru his bones and a liar to boot. His own statements prove where his loyalty is. He got a Purple Heart for a nick that required a bandaid and some demoncrap on the panel questioning him says he got “Blown Apart”. If he was “Blown Apart” then why did he return to work after only “a couple of hours”??? His own words. Now he has taken the Purple Heart to new lows for all those Veterans that really have been blown apart and killed and are not functional laying in Hospitals across this land. What a LIAR.

    • HIS PREVIOUS SERVICE DOES NOT EXCUSE HIS INVOLVEMENT IN HIGH TREASON. I.E. THE ATTEMPTED COUP DE TA OF THE PRESIDENT. THE DEMS KEEP DRAGGING UP MUD, BUT KEEP LOOSING TO TRUTH. THE PLAIN TRUTH IS MOST OF THE WITNESSES WILL PROBABLY LOOSE THEIR JOBS AND RIGHTFULLY SO. MOST OF THE DEMOCRATS AND SOME OF THE WITNESSES VERY WELL COULD FACE CRIMINAL CHARGES FOR HIGH TREASON. THE USUAL PUNISHMENT BEING DEATH BY HANGING. ALL BECAUSE LT. COL. VINDMAN BROKE HIS OATH AS A MILITARY MAN AND INTELLIGENCE OFFICER AND ADAM SCHIFF BROKE HIS OATH OF OFFICE AS A ELECTED OFFICIAL OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WITH INTELLIGENCE CLEARANCE LEVEL..BUT NOT EXERCISING ANY PERSONAL INTELLIGENCE..THIS IS UNLESS THE MAN THEY SOUGHT TO RUIN OUR DUELY ELECTED PRESIDENT DECIDES TO SHOW THEM MERCY..ASK A VET ABOUT THEIR OATH WE ALL TOOK THE SAME OATH AND AS LONG AS YOU BREATH THIS OATH IS IN EFFECT.

    • Thank you, you are 110% right all the way. Vindman is a naturalized american citizen, not natural born therefore i believe he holds no allegiance to America. He is a pathatic excuse for a career army vet. And I believe he is gay. There is no whistleblower but there are leakers and he is one of them.

      I believe that Trump knew from the year before about the corruption in Ukraine and other places around the world. Trump studied obama and his administration very closely and was always on fox and friends in the mornings voicing his opinions etc. Yes Trump knew all of this and I believe he set this entire drainage up even though it was a huge risk to his life and family. I think Jeff Sessions was also part of this and his job played out just the way Trump had it planned. All hell is about to break loose and I say hold on tight its going down before the end of this year.

      And then Trump can do his job that we the people elected him to do so and win again in 2020.

  2. MISTER Vindman is an embarrassment to the American military and to the American people. Frankly, he should be “outed” from the WH!

  3. After 21+ years in the military, LTC Vindman is still an LTC. For the average commissioned officer that is more or less competent at the job and has NOT had any major conflicts with superiors, they are usually wearing EAGLES (Full Colonel for USA, USMC and USAF – Captain in the USN, O-6 grade).

    But it has already been established that LTC Vindman does NOT follow the chain of command and has already had some “run-ins” with his seniors – see Colonel Hickman’s statements about Vindman – Google Colonel Hickman.

    Is it possible that Adam Schiff and Nancy Pelosi have described for LTC Vindman a path so he could retire as a full Colonel if he would stand firm that President Trump “DEMANDED” action from Ukraine instead of what the transcripts show that President Trump just asked “can you do a favor”

    I am a former E-7 with 12 years of military experience. Many senior officers would ask me “can you do me a favor” I never took this as a demand. I took this as a task that was needed to be completed in a timely manner that was NOT a significant priority but was of some importance. Since the request was made by senior officers, Commanders or Captains, I took it as they were asking me because I was reliable, thorough and trustworthy. I completed these tasks in addition to the regular work and along with any emergencies that suddenly came up, (and most Vets will identify that there were always a surplus of local and immediate emergencies). (my service evaluations, Fit-reps, early promotions, awards and decorations reflect this).

    I find Mr. Vindman to be Disingenuous to say the least. He is someone that no-one would TRUST to any extent. There are some commissioned officers like that, for enlisted people, their hope would be the guy gets transferred from the command soon.

    It looks like LTC. Vindman will be transferred from his duties in the WH soon since he LEAKED privileged information – he is untrustworthy).

  4. And; one his way out the back door of the White House, the Marine security detail needs to beat the ever loving shit out of this treacherous piece of shit. Put that pinko fuckhead in a wheelchair!!

      • What be a traitor to your Country? Laugh with Russian solders about the men you serve with? Totally ignore the chain of command? Is that matching military accomplishments?

        I think Obama’s so-called Military standards stink. He gutted our Military, and made it an “honor” for any man with an operation to “become a woman”.

        Yep setting our forces up to fail. Also let’s not forget those gun sales? Gee, can sell them or loose them (wink wink) in Benghazi which got heroes killed, but won’t give Ukraine the necessary help?

        GOD BLESS PRESIDENT TRUMP! GOD BLESS THE USA!

  5. Lt. Col. Vindman MUST BE Court Marshaled and lose his Silver Oakleaves and be busted to a Second Lieutenant, loss al pay and allowance and given a stretch at Leavenworth. He is a disgrace and knew better. You DO NOT go outside the Chain of Command.

  6. https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/11/20/live-updates-amb-gordon-sondland-testifies-in-impeachment-hearing/

    Wow, now we have a EU member, who is changing is earlier statement. Totally loyal to the NWO Globalist plan.

    “9:44 A.M. — Sondland: “In the absence of any credible explanation for the suspension of aid, I later came to believe that the resumption of security aid would not occur until there was a public statement from Ukraine committing to the investigations of the 2016 election and Burisma.”

    Just his feelings, right? Where was this EU member when Obama didn’t send help for 8 years, allowing what these deep state characters said would help defend Ukraine from Russia? Where was this EU member when investigations of a bribe with TAXPAYER dollars, and the connection of VP Biden, the State Department (Kerry), when both sons were on Burisma’s board?

    “9:38 A.M. — Sondland says the State Department would not provide documents that could refresh his testimony: “Having access to the State Department materials would have been very helpful to me in trying to reconstruct with whom I spoke and met, when, and what was said. I am not a note-taker. I am not a memo writer. Never have been.”

    He adds: “These documents are not classified and, in fairness, should have been made available. In the absence of these materials, my memory, admittedly has not been perfect.”

    Which State Department? Obama’s, Kerry’s, Clinton’s? Can see why your memory is foggy, and can see why you are not a note taker. You have to FOLLOW THE SCRIPT.

    GOD BLESS PRESIDENT TRUMP! GOD BLESS THE USA!

    • Agree,a disgrace to our country and specially in the military , don’t know how to follow the chain of command . Hello that’s why the president is the commander in chief , he should be kicked out from the military !

  7. Comrad Vindman is a registered Democrat and voted for socialist Comrad Hillary Clinton. He is way outside the chain of command and needs a swift court Marshal.

  8. What this whole impeachment matter is all about of course, is: Israel wants Pence as POTUS of the US. Pence will make the perfect Zio-Minion. He has gulped down the Zio-Koolaid that the Jews are God’s chosen people and that we, us dumb X-tian Goyim are under divine decree to love them and support the state of Israel.

    Six months after Pence gets in there, we, the contemptible vassal state of Jew Israel will be hard at work destrying Iran, a’la Syria.

    Israel draws its power and its courage from its beguilement of X-tian America. Zion, with their, “above top secret”, psychological operation; “Scofield Study Bible”, succeeeded beyond even their own wildest dreams.

    At the turn of the twentieth century, consequent to the emancipation of the Jews, there were many wealthy Jew oligarchs. The emancipation of the Jews was consequent to the enlightenment, which itself was consequent to, the black death, which killed probably more than half of the European population.

    The horror of this pandemic shook the faith of the Christian people. The power of the Church would never be the same again.

    It was said, “The victims ate dinner with their friends and supper with their ancestors”.

    A Little Macabre Ditty

    “A sickly season,” the merchant said,
    “The town I left was filled with dead,
    And everywhere these queer red flies,
    crawled upon the corpse eyes,
    Eating them away.”

    “Fair make you sick,” the merchant said,
    “They crawled upon the wine and bread.
    Pale priest with oil and books,
    Bulging eyes and crazy looks,
    Dropping like the flies.”

    “I had to laugh,” the merchant said,
    “The doctors purged and dosed and bled;
    And proved through solemn disputation.
    The cause lay in some constellation.
    Then, they began to die.”

    “First they sneezed,” the merchant said,
    “Then they turned the brightest red,
    Begged for water, and then fell back.
    With bulging eyes, and face turned black,
    Then, they waited for the flies.”

    “I came away,” the merchant said,
    “You can’t do business with the dead.
    So I came here to ply my trade,
    You’ll find this to be a fine brocade.”
    …And then, he sneezed!

    The black death gave credence to the idea that man was in fact on his own in this earthly journey. That in fact, there was no omniscient omnipotent God Head that created mankind and oversaw the affairs of mortal men.

    Of course, religion itself survived, albeit in a diminished state. That said, it is clear today, in the light of Reform Judaism; that in no ethnic group was the idea of “No Godhead involved in the affairs of man” implanted more firmly than among the Jews.

    It is further clear to men of intellectual substance that that is a correct world view. It is also clear that that correct world view advantages virtually all who have the intellectual substance to grasp it.

    More: That is especially true of and for groups and states, in particular, ethnic groups and ethnic states.

    More: Wherein that accurate world view would be underlain by a superior intellect, that accurate world view would be leveraged to be even more powerful and advantageous.

    Note: The actualization of the superior intellect of the Jews is a narrative that the Jews do not want Gentile society to become aware of.

    More: Wherein said ethnic group / state would be of debased and corrupt character; the consequences of this substantial empowerment could be chillingly grave.

    I submit that this is indeed the case; and that Jew Israel has bamboozled Christianity; and is parasitically attached to and is sucking the life blood of America; and as the hatred metastasizes and ratchets ever higher, Israel is the equivalent of a nuclear loose cannon on the world stage.

    • Respectfully disagree regarding Israel wanting VP Pence as President.

      As always, it’s always been the Jewish people’s fault. I guess that’s why Obama Administration tried to get involved in the election to oust the Prime Minister, along with State Dept Kerry being pals with the Palestine.

      You looking for a religion to blame, the Muslim religion, along with the Catholic Church false prophet that is changing its’ church to be a Globalist Green organization.

      Christianity is also being attacked here as well, from the Social Justice Warriors that Obama created.

      GOD BLESS PRESIDENT TRUMP! GOD BLESS THE USA!

      • Karen, please, I am not looking for a religion to blame. My intent is to posit the facts as I see them. Wherein you believe that I am wrong, please advise.

        • I think it’s HAS become about religion. Made in fact, a big deal thru the Obama Administration. BTW, Obama lied about being Muslim thru his candidacy. Said he was a Christian, but liars lie.

          “I submit that this is indeed the case; and that Jew Israel has bamboozled Christianity; and is parasitically attached to and is sucking the life blood of America; and as the hatred metastasizes and ratchets ever higher, Israel is the equivalent of a nuclear loose cannon on the world stage.”

          I don’t see Israel doing this. I see the Muslim Brotherhood. A religion where in fact you LIE to get your way. Just look at the Impeachment scam and you will see how low this so-called religion has sucked out the American Values of this Great Nation. I don’t see Israel getting involved in our elections, like Obama did in theirs.

          President Trump’s Administration has done a Great service to our ally who is trying to PROTECT their people. It’s the Muslims of this World. Just look at the records of some of the Muslim reps in Congress now. They LIED to get the money for elections. Muslim Brotherhood was a permanent fixture in the Obama White House.

          Israel is OUR Ally. One that I would trust more than others. Especially for those whose religion feels it’s a good cause to lie to get your way, and then look down and call anyone not of that religion infidels, not worthy of this World.

          GOD BLESS PRESIDENT TRUMP! GOD BLESS THE USA!

  9. I’m satisfied beyond any doubt that Vindman is the leaker, and as much a liar as Schiffty. They BOTH know who the ‘whistleblower/non-whistleblower’ is. How can they NOT know, after that testimony.

    It will come out in the Senate, if the Demonrats keep it up.

    The whole witch hunt mess/thing keeps me so irritated, I’d vote for Trump just to spite their stupid demon asses.

    EVEN if they came up with something REAL (at this point, I think impossible). It’s too late. I’m so angry they couldn’t admit defeat in the election, and from all the crap they’ve put the country through, I’d rather they all go to prison, be exiled, or be hanged. It’s seditious and even treasonous.
    Most conservatives tolerated Obama, even though they couldn’t stand what he is, and what his agenda was (still is); but he was allowed to serve as elected. The demonrats should have done the same thing, and waited until another election. They just don’t trust their constituents.

    The only reason they are in such a tither is MONEY, and their fear of losing it; and they know what they have done to get it. They also know Trump knows what they’ve done to get it, and he’s breaking the mold their used to.

    The swamp is nice until you stir it up . . .

  10. So….. MS (NOT MR. or LTC) Vindman , testified TODAY, that HE DIDN’T KNOW , Hunter Biden was receiving MILLIONS from Ukraine’s BURISMA GAS CO. , until TODAY !! Then WHAT did he think was the REASON for a “Quid Pro Quo”, a “BRIBE” ,or an “INVESTIGATION” of BURISMA or the BIDENS , at the President’s request ,was ALL ABOUT BACK IN JULY ?!?!? This A-HOLE TREASON WEASEL , is RIGHT AT HOME IN RUSSIA AND UKRAINE , TALKING SMACK ABOUT AMERICA AND AMERICANS TO RUSSIAN TROOPS !!! He deserves a DISHONORABLE DISCHARGE AND A ONE-WAY TICKET TO MOTHER RUSSIA WITH NO PASSPORT !!! HE SOUNDED LIKE HEIR MUELLER , TESTIFYING THAT HE HAD NEVER HEARD OF “FUSION GPS” !!!

  11. Has it been discussed that the millions Hunter Biden was given may have been U.S. tax-payer dollars that was given as aid to the Ukraine ? If that is correct, then that appears to be a big slap in our faces.

  12. https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/11/21/david-holmes-testifies-he-was-deeply-disappointed-with-donald-trump-ukraine-call/

    “Upon reading the transcript, I was deeply disappointed to see that the President raised none of what I understood to be our
    interagency agreed-upon foreign policy priorities in Ukraine and instead raised the Biden/Burisma investigation,” he said, during his opening statement at the public impeachment hearing in the House Intelligence Committee.”

    Oh boo hoo, APPOINTED employee. Were not involved in the actual call, someone else was involved that was NOT your choice as you are following Bush/Obama foreign plans.

    Gee it was ok for the “loss of money” during the Obama administration, but now it’s OH NO as President Trump questioned where the American hard earned tax dollars would be used for.

    Hearsay, and a bunch of appointed employees who feel their views are more important than the President.

    GOD BLESS PRESIDENT TRUMP! GOD BLESS THE USA!

  13. https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/11/21/fiona-hill-worked-with-christopher-steele-author-of-russia-dossier/

    So connected to the dossier author, along with working on the board for George Soros Open Society.

    And always Schiff storytime character doesn’t recall when working with her counterpart Steele.

    This is absolutely pathetic. For 3 years these appointed people, connected to a Globalists and past administration have worked diligently to shred our Constitution and make the Executive Branch null and void. Obama liked that so no one could point the finger at him when his rouge State Department gets caught. Don’t think so Obama. Biden is going to bring you down BIG TIME! And Hiliary is going to help because YOU PROMISED her she could be Queen, lol.

    GOD BLESS PRESIDENT TRUMP! GOD BLESS THE USA!

  14. He is nothing but a paper pusher. Didnt anyone nothing has he sat there right up against the table and always folded his hands right up and close to his chest and then gave a small head bob like he would do if his mother patted him on the head as a child and said, good boy and hence his hands got folded. He is a strange strange person.

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